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The most advanced player in the space right now is WeatherXM, but their go-to-market feels too scattered. They’ve deployed stations all over, but I don’t think they’re hitting the critical density needed for an active and valuable network. In contrast, Nubila’s new strategy is more focused—they’re concentrating deployments in specific cities like Dallas. That’s the approach DePIN networks should take: target dense rollouts to reach the minimum viable node threshold before expanding.

Personally I have a Apple watch and I have a really hard time to see how any of these products will come close to this. But if I had to pick I will go with Cudis

I know that Karrier one is coming soon!

Haven’t heard about that in a while… I tend to agree, it feels like kinda of hard to recover from a failed TGE

Honestly I feel it will depend on their TGE… I met their team and they are top notch!

Was this out of the blue?

Welcome!

Wow that’s crazy… but I’m not sure how they solved the issue that Helium was never able to solve tho?

Personally I haven’t seen that model work well ever in the space… miners go offline, not enough incentive for the deployer to keep a whole fleet on. I would just deploy my own hardware if I’m interested in a project.

@Xrave had chart showing that in a previous thread

I feel like Geodnet has been constantly doubling up on every halving!

I feel we’ve been waiting for 3 years now… I can see Helium making big advancement in the meantime. I’m rooting for HiveMapper as a DePIN project but I’d like to see a bit more!

But it’s like a meme coin… so for sure there’s no purpose. At least they are very honest about it.

Okay I see hahah picking up the very early projects

What do you mean by days?

Thanks for clarifying! Looking at your Moken miner profile do you only mine DeEEP?

I think it’s too early to try to assess if Aethir was a good move or not… Generally 3 years is the right time frame to see if this was ROI positive or negative

Yea so for some time, the GR1D node was sold in bundle with the DeEEP device… I think it was 200$ more.

So far from what it looks like only Helium is kinda of successful in the dewi space and it had to raise over $300M… it looks like a problem that needs 10’s of thousands of hotspots to cover an area. I feel it’s really challenging for smaller startups that haven’t raised these amounts.

That’s actually very true. Plus, to be honest, the fact that a company other than Google or Apple is making a phone feels a bit risky to me

Yeah overall the defect has been pretty decent with these units

Not yet coming next version!

The team has been outstanding so far, and the user experience has been excellent—very transparent throughout. I don’t know much about NXTchain but Deeep will be hard to match.

Like a full blown cell tower? Where did you see that?

Okay so I’m assuming you export the rewards from the tracker to add to do these calculations?

Hey good question, so eventually we will have asics be part of the Depin tracker as well. Not sure when however…

I think it’s interesting but I would like to know a little bit more of the deployment plan… Do they have a specific area they are trying to cover? If so how many? I feel like the criteria’s to deploy at the moment are a little loose and that for me is not a great sign. Overall their team is nice and I think they can achieve great things but I would like to see a little more.

So you’d recommend the WB200 instead of the MGW310 in the case where you don’t have clear sky?

Honestly I became a little skeptical about announcement like these… We’ve seen so many that didn’t turn out to be true. Plus, I don’t even think it makes sense… like why would AT&T a leader in the telecom space partner up with Karrier one so early on? What I want to hear is :
- How Karrier one tech is better then the current alternative
- How they have a plan to build strong a dense networks
- How their team has strong expertise in the telecom space

In how long tho 👀

Fully agreed with this… it’s a little bit weird that they would allow so many devices in one area. However, I know that Nubila is very focused on the Dallas area now and is offering 50% off for anyone who deploys in this area. Plus apparently many more areas like these are coming in the pipeline. So at least we are seeing them make an effort of deploying properly!

Yea I mean in theory because of the crypto incentive Wingbits should get more coverage then FR24 in areas that it doesn’t cover like Africa, the Amazon or parts of South America. Also FR24 struggles with drones, helicopters and light aircraft. So maybe the bet is that with the emergence of flying taxis coming and drones coming in the next few years Wingbits could win that market?

Interesting… do you know what’s Helium’s policy on token burn? I didn’t know that Geodnet one was so high...

It’s very true that Geodnet business model is cheap to operate so that definitely gives them an edge in terms of token burn!

Now that’s real utility right there 😂

You can still swap it within your 1 year of warranty I think?

DePin for sex toys is overkill — the only real upside is not letting the company own your data. But most people don’t care, they just want the thing to work. Adding tokens and decentralization makes it clunky for no real gain.

Actually if this gets a lot of upvotes we might do it!

I’d be curious to get more of the community input on it..

Yeah I see, I guess that’s the bet when you’re stepping into a new Depin Project you’re hopping to see one of these tokens do really well.

Yeah absolutely agreed… I’m wondering if maybe the goal is not to deploy in your own garden? just like Helium Mobile doesn’t want you to deploy in your own house.

Yeah the date moves based on the incoming updates we get from the manufacturer

Yeah agreed

Ok I see but you’re estimate is only 10$/month… seems a little low.

Yeah I think same as Geodnet but why would someone pick this over Geodnet?

Yeah they will fix that soon!

I tried to look into that project a few times but I never really understood what it does?

Did you see that on the Moken tracker?

and there’s already several per 250 miles?

So if I get it… your pointing out that you don’t feel like the Wingbits network is unique?

Project looks like it could make sense but the website is sketchy no?

It’s pretty impressive what Entropy was able to create in terms of community!

I’m not sure it’s arbitrary… I think it’s really to avoid diluting token distribution to useless deployments

Still that doesn’t look like a too bad outcome!

For me the golden example is Geodnet… Very strict deployment criteria’s. Not a lot of tokens wasted on useless deployments. Another one that I feel is the same path is Wingbits. I really would judge based on how the token emissions are being set. I feel a slow token emission for deployments that help the network is what we should keep an eye on.

Hahaha sometimes it pays to be very early tho so I don’t really blame you!

Could you have figured that out before making the purchase?

Right now, no one really knows… it’s very hard to tell but when we asked the community to rank their top projects Wingbits was 3rd place.

Wow that’s a real harsh given that you actually already own 10 SkyX… Have you tried the Marco to compare the device quality?

I find that these quests generally are rarely worth the effort!

Would you say it’s comparable in terms of user experience to a Apple watch?

Nice well said… I’m now a little more convinced haha!

I also see a lot of potential with Dimo but there app marketplace hasn’t picked up lots of momentum yet… I’m not sure what’s holding them back.

I think the team is super strong, they raised a good amount of money, the community is very strong as well. I think they have the right ingredients to take it pretty far and I’m not too worried about the “information” already existing… If anything that validates the that the problem exist and that a possible really strong solution will be used.

Can it just be some bots who are following SkyX without SkyX faking it?

I’m assuming an NFT price at 200$ ish

I think he meant reply to reply (endless chain)

Yea I totally get that!

Yes haha I was going to request!!

I think within 1 year we might see ROVR dominating that space!!

I’m honestly feeling a lot less confident in Hivemapper… Lots of people in the industry are telling me that dashcams are already very common in that space and that Hivemapper is not differentiated enough.

Yeah I agree with the Natix portion but honestly my bet will go on ROVR, the team seems insanely strong and very savy about their industry.

Lots of nothing

Nice that research looks really good, are you already in Depin wearables?

I’m not sure about that… I think so far the types of products that these DePIN launched are very hard to compete with an Apple watch. Actually as a user it’s really a downgrade to go from Apple watch to any of these DePIN watches. I feel if this is not solved it will make it super hard for projects to do well in that space.

I agree I totally see the use case but to get to the type of hardware quality that’s expected is not easy at all! Do you think there’s going to be a DePIN project able to come up with that standard of quality?

I think the idea makes sense in theory but the challenge will be coming up with quality hardware…. the standard of what people are expecting is like Apple/Google quality products.

I feel this must of be real? Can’t imagine them inventing that although we’ve seen something like this in the past.

Oh shit I thought they sold out and we’re waiting to add more workload?

I personally met the team and they look like straight up dudes. Apparently one of the co-founders also previously founded Onnocoy

I personally met the team and they look like straight up dudes. Apparently one of the co-founders also previously founded Onnocoy